TOPG Ep 80: Jack Frost & Jack Frost

This week on Too Old or Pure Gold, we celebrate the most confusing holiday double feature imaginable: Jack Frost (1998) and Jack Frost (1997). One is a heartfelt family film where Michael Keaton becomes a snowman dad. The other is a low-budget horror movie where a killer snowman goes on a murderous rampage. Same name. Very different vibes. We break down how this happened, why one is traumatizing kids and the other is traumatizing adults, and ask the ultimate question: which Jack Frost is pure gold… and which should stay buried in a snowbank?

Hosts: Olen Vanderleeden & Mathew Stockton
Cast: Nicole & Clef Seeley

Creators and Guests

Mathew Stockton
Host
Mathew Stockton
Mathew Stockton is co-host of Too Old or Pure Gold and the voice behind the acclaimed true crime podcast Dark Poutine. Known for his dry wit, sharp cultural takes, and unapologetic disdain for both Tom Cruise and David Hasselhoff, Mathew brings a grounded, no-nonsense edge to the show. Check Mathew out on Dark Poutine and follow his dog Steve at Steve_couldnt_leave
Olen Vanderleeden
Host
Olen Vanderleeden
A Gen X creative whose career spans cannabis, clean tech, and media, but his real passion is stuck in a time warp somewhere between a VHS rental and a training montage. As the creator, producer, and co-host of Too Old or Pure Gold, Olen channels his lifelong love of 80s cinema, especially the high-kicking, synth-scored, gloriously weird corners of it, into a podcast that celebrates, critiques, and reexamines the movies that shaped a generation.
Clef Seeley
Guest
Clef Seeley
Clef Seeley is is the composer of our theme music and soundtrack critic. He’s just as comfortable appreciating the lighthearted charm of Remo Williams as he is unpacking the psychological layers of Videodrome. Clef brings a rare balance of joy and depth to the pod, always ready to laugh, but never afraid to go deep when a film demands it.
Pieter Vanderleeden
Guest
Pieter Vanderleeden
At 93, Pieter is the tireless heart of Pieter’s Plot Corner, watching and studying every film we cover, then delivering a brilliant and succinct plot summary for listeners who may not have seen (or survived) the movie in question. He missed a lot of these films in the '80s, but he’s catching up now, and loving (almost) every minute. Equally dedicated to the good and the awful, Pieter is an essential part of the podcast family and a fan favorite in his own right.
TOPG Ep 80: Jack Frost & Jack Frost
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